How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

I am like a fish out of water,

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

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ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

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There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

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Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Why is rap* a crime?

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

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ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Do you have any attributes quirks sensitivities abilities etc that you've come to learn most people don't experience? E.g. dream with subtext or experience de ja vu regularly or know you experience life very differently from those around you etc?

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

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ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

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Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

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The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

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These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Kabir (a weaver)

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

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The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

CONCLUSION:

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

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Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

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Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Sain (a barber)

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

NOW…

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Now here in this verse

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

then who is there to know what happens without?

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.